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Words escape me for what an honor it is to have sat down, again, with Dr. Joseph Mercola.
My most recent interview with Dr Mercola is on Mistletoe. This was recorded last fall around the time the Mistletoe and the Emerging Future of Integrative Oncology book was released! (Get your copy here: https://steinerbooks.presswarehouse.com/…/Mistletoe-and…)
We talk all things mistletoe but it’s only available for 48 hours!
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Thank you, Dr Mercola, for the time and platform to share about this ancient plant with ancient wisdom.
A Special Interview With Dr. Nasha Winters By Dr. Joseph Mercola – Mistletoe: An Emerging Adjunct to Oncological Treatment
Transcript below:
Welcome everyone, this is Dr. Mercola helping you take control of your health. And we are going to take a side step from our normal routine, which is discussing COVID-19. But interestingly, if you understand this topic, it will unequivocally give you the tools and the resources to help prevent any damage from any infection, including SARS-CoV-2. So the divergence we’re going to emerge into today is the second, probably going to the leading cause of death overall, which is cancer. And we’re going to talk about a fascinating component of it that I didn’t realize until I got out a copy of this book written by Dr. Nasha Winters, who we are going be dialoguing with today. And the title of the book is “Mistletoe and the Emerging Future of Integrative Oncology.”
Dr. Joseph Mercola:
So, I don’t know that many of you have heard of it but we’re going to hear a lot about mistletoe today, and more importantly and broadly, the strategy one should take to hit this. Interestingly, we’ll talk about this, but cancer is not a new disease. I mean it is a new disease for the most part, it didn’t essentially exist 150 years ago, but now it’s like one of the leading and, progressing to the leading, cause of death. So you really have to understand how to approach it because either you or someone you know or love deeply will struggle with this, guaranteed, 100%, and most of you watching this, that’s already the case. So this is going to be a fascinating resource because Dr. Nasha Winters is, in my view, the leading go-to integrative oncologist in the U.S., maybe the world. I have enormous respect for her.
Dr. Joseph Mercola:
I didn’t always have that view of her. I was somewhat skeptical, but over the years I’ve come to appreciate that about her. And there’s no doubt if I ever come down with cancer, and I doubt I ever will, but if I did, I’d see her first and she could have agreed to see me, which is really good, because she says it’s impossible to see this woman. She’s such in demand that the only way to get through is indirectly through the people she’s taught. So, a fascinating woman. So we are just privileged to be able to dialogue with her today. So with all an intro, welcome, and thank you for joining us today.
Dr. Nasha Winters:
Aw, thanks doc. It’s so good to be here. As I was saying to you before we got started, I think about you a lot. I know you are being kind of the “don’t shoot the messenger” guy. You’ve definitely been the messenger as of late and always have been. I’ve been following your work for many, many years, and I know with the type of things you say comes controversy, but our world is controversial times right now and we have to be willing to lean into the sort of out-of-the-box concepts and conversations and you have never shied away from that, so I’m really grateful for you [crosstalk 00:02:50]-
Dr. Joseph Mercola:
Well, thank you for that, but it’s not so much leaning into these concepts, it’s just embracing the truth and helping people understand it in a way that gets them through the brainwashing. And thankfully we’ve been able to really help a lot of people. And the reason they’re focusing on me is not that my reach is so big, it’s just that I have a powerful voice because I’ve been at this for a quarter of a century.
When I say something, it’s been my observation that many people listen because they know I have no hidden agenda, no ulterior motive. So that is why they perceive me as such a dangerous set and why there’s such an enormous amount of intense effort to discredit me and get me out of the picture. It’s [inaudible 00:03:29]. Life is so great. The more they try to discredit me, the more important my voice becomes. It’s just crazy the way they work. “I think this guy didn’t understand what they’re doing.”
Dr. Nasha Winters: You’re like they’re helping you market without you [crosstalk 00:03:41]-
Dr. Joseph Mercola: Yeah. Yeah. You couldn’t be [crosstalk 00:03:42].
Dr. Nasha Winters: Well, [inaudible 00:03:44] controversy as well, like I’ve had the same kind of dynamic. I’ve been, as of this month, October of 2021, at the time we’re having our conversation, who knows when this will come out in the public [crosstalk 00:03:55] but at the time of our conversation, I’m coming on to 30 years out of a death sentence of a terminal cancer diagnosis. And still, to this day, get met with so much resistance to what I’ve learned for myself and for thousands, if not tens of thousands of other patients directly, as well as maybe way more than that, indirectly through the training of their physicians.
Dr. Nasha Winters:
And so, I mean, talk about two of the most controversial things we can talk about today, which is-
Dr. Joseph Mercola:
Yeah, yeah.
Dr. Nasha Winters:
-oncology and sort of the immune system and its relationship to both a pandemic viral issue as well as a pandemic cancer issue. For me, they’re the same source, it’s a broken terrain and that’s where I put my focus. I don’t put my focus on a virus and I don’t put my focus on a cancer cell, I put my focus on the health of the host of which those things will invariably land or meet us at some point in our existence. So that’s my crazy controversy is that I focus more on the human organism and the health of that terrain versus the condition or the disease or the label that overlays that person or that condition.
Dr. Joseph Mercola:
And you picked the perfect profession to engage in, or at least develop your professional training. So, and I neglected to mention that, but thank you for laying the groundwork and frame for what encouraged and activated your interest in this area, a personal challenge, but then you went into naturopathic medical school, because there’s two different type of naturopaths. I had a girlfriend like 20 years ago who actually was a naturopathic physician like you, and I think you maybe even went to the same college.
Dr. Nasha Winters:
I did. I know her very well. Yeah.
Dr. Joseph Mercola:
Southwest College [of Naturopathic Medicine]. Probably about the same time.
Dr. Nasha Winters:
Yeah.
Dr. Joseph Mercola: And it was her constant frustration. She’s not practicing now, she’s just a mother, [crosstalk 00:05:45] that’s a full-time job.
Dr. Nasha Winters:
A bigger job.